Monday, September 12, 2005

The PROBLEM with Muslims

You might be thinking; am I, as a Muslim, supposed to have such a heading on front of my page and start to point it out to everyone? I appreciate all different inputs of comments regardless if its compliments or 'constructive criticism'. Refering to the last posts, for one thing, Islam cannot just be the blame for triggering the acts of Muslims...if it were, there would be more Muslims than now taking upon the sword and weapons in their hands to fight against the 'infidelity'. If it was the belief of Islam to just simply kill ANY infidel found on the street, store, shop...there would have been more deportation of Muslims out of the West. Islam is 'not officially' the cause of the wars and killings. It is those people who use and take Islam in their pockets and bring it to their intentions and aims. There has been many times in blood and war of just about every main religion, and to my sight, many of us had forgotten that, only that this is Islam's big turn to having the lighting at its name .

So what is the problem with Muslims? What has been the problem? What I notice of Muslims is the attempts of trying to preserve the 'way of life' they had had around the time Islam officially became a religion. They try to stay with their values, their work of life, their aims in life and kept out many new progressive information and lifestyles that now fully exists in the rest of the World, because the new religion, and ways of life they found seemed to have found them at a better status of having a peaceful life. Surely now, it's recent that there are computer and scientific technologies in the Middle Eastern countries extensively and now Muslim nations trade like bees fly in the air. The lifestyles of Arabs/Muslims does not make Islam what it is today. People just look upon Muslims assuming that Islam is them because they practice that religion. In reality, if we all know we are imperfect, then we would and should be looking upon the actual source of the faith rather than look upon a peoples' actions. They are misled as much as we are.

There are three major situations Muslims have gone wrong in are (that by the way does not go against the religion itself.)::Admitting, domination of all Muslims as One (perhaps nation of Islam), and self contradiction.
I see a huge problem with the Middle East because, if methodically speaking that most of the Middle East is Arab, then I'd say that Arabs are too stubborn to change their Laws and offer more will and choices to the people. I have nothing for the Arab nations (or Muslim). I see none of them being any better because I know how twisted their governments are. Yes, the Western governments too are twisted in their policies and corrupted, the only difference is almost all Arabs do not see or recognise any twists and corruption of their OWN government. Nor do they like hearing it from the people either. They usually barely do say 'this is what our government is doing and I dont agree with it. I think they should change it.' And if I did hear it often, it'd be a miracle! The reason for this is because the Middle east IS NOT ruled by a government that allows SUCH free speech wherepeople can freely speak of their own government. Nor are the governments YET democratically chosen. Muslims lost the exercise of 'to question and seek'. Presumingly, they seem to feel that everything they do should all be left up to God, putting them in a position where they would not do much about it. On the other hand they have the difficulty of admitting. Admitting what? Admitting mistakes. Mistakes are not pointed out, because they may feel self superior of what they say, even I too, yet I try to exercise the idea of admitting and correcting. No one said it's easy, especially when the gene of stubbornness comes through lol.

This is where the ability of them changing in a jiff is low...and if we want peace, we have to come through to them by trying to reason with them, not denouncing their religion publicly by stating that their faith is hate and therefore they all are murderers. It will make no difference, only worse. If you want a war, that's what you would do. If you want peace with Muslims, there is a way precisely trying to get the attention of a portion of Muslims at least, so those muslims can try to take on course a different approach of reaching peace and perseverance.
Muslims have this thought of 'spreading Islam' which I so much despise right now because how can they SPREAD Islam when Muslims cannot SOLVE their own Islamic nations' problems?? How could they think of spreading if their own land has its own deformities which needs correction? I can tell you, that I dont even want an Islamic nation if Muslims are not able to find their mistakes, see it for themselves and do something about it. Because I fear it will turn out like the work Saudi rulers often impose acts that don't even abide by the Islamic law. This is why I denounce Islamic law in Iraq. It does NOT make me against Islam. It makes me against those people who use the Islamic law in such a bad horrible way, that I hope will not happen. I don't seek Iraq to be apart of the Ummah, or nation of Islam either. I seek for Iraq and any NATION'S solutions. Only because Other Muslims do not deserve to treat Iraq likes theirs' when they dont respect the isolation of Iraqis simply sorting out their own national problems first. If any other nation was attacked, I would not sought to enforce them into anything for they are required to SOLVE their own people's problems in that land first. How can a nation become apart of this Ummah or one Islamic nation if the Iraqis cannot sort out their own problems first...and people are demanding Iraq to be of their property right away, though had none of their feet on Iraqi soil in the first place?

If MIddle Easterners do not respect the decision of end of interference, then Iraq does not need to be apart of the Ummah, nor will I hope it to be. Just when Iraqis need to sort out their problems, others intrude...an attack from our own people, Arabs, who do not respect the idea of some national isolation for a tiny bit. And this is why, we have turned into nations, tribes, and groups of people. We DO know ONE another. And we should be LIVING together, but it will not happen and it should not happen if it contradicts the Quranic/religious verse 'do not kill a human for you will as if killed all humanity'. If other Arabs come in to attack Iraqis for simply communicating with Americans, and then want Iraq Apart of this Arab Muslim "CLUB", then FORGET it!!! Iraq WILL not be apart of any united group from anyone, but itself! Nonetheless, it IS not like Arab nations DONT communicate with the West. Another yet contradiction where people say 'its wrong of USA to be in Iraq in the future'.....but hang on......... how about the other Arab nations who live in luxury more than Iraqis? How come Arabs dont complain about how they're communicating with the "Devil USA"? How come women even in Kuwait can talk to men? Even in Syria, Jordan? Yet they complain about a woman talking to a man politely in Iraq for something more important? And that example is the smallest of the least.

Ive heard all kind of comments from Muslims on Tv, in person etc...Palestinians who attempted to suicide bomb themselves but did not succeed with the reasons of 'hatred of Jewish settlers and the Iraqi war'. And non Arab Muslims who told me 'Iraq is ours. Its Muslim, no non Muslim should be there' They have no recognition of such a nation's history but today, Muslims control Iraq and they hope it to be Arab Sunni only. What EVER happened to the tolerance of Islam, and the idea of living in peace? lol But then again, what is it in the interest of a non Arab Muslim to even care about a nation like Iraq who I tease knows Little of Before the 2003 war?? Their interest is proving their point of how USA is evil, and how other Muslim nations are corrupted so they as Muslims should try to build a Nation of Islam in Iraq. And their support of Muslim terrorists who come all the way from Sudan, Somalia etc to Iraq is to sacrifice Iraqis as SHEEP, God forbid, to paint Iraq as a Muslim nation, regardless its suffocating people who were tortured for years. All this, by the way, I discovered by talking to such a person in real life, myself. I have no guts to put any person down but I told the person I disagreed because it simply is not valid under Islamic terms.

However, I will no longer tolerate such ignorance. I have rarely met Muslims who acknowledge the will of Iraqis these days. You try politely to explain to them what Iraqis are going through, what your family and friends are going through in Iraq, and they say 'USA killed Iraqi Muslims. Maybe you should have kept your family away from Americans', BUT what about the terrorists who kill women and children??? Opps!! did they forget its 'haram' to kill such innocents? They complain on and on about how USA KillED this and that two years ago, but they never complain about the killings of Iraqis BY Suicide bombers. I have never heard such ridiculous comments and I know now, why Iraq will have no hope to get REAL HELP from our Arab Muslim brothers and sisters. I hope Iraqis in Iraq know what is going on. I hope they will see that they are better off without the other Arabs and Muslims in general until FURTHER notice by Iraqis if they want to join. I hope Iraqis will unite together first, before making a step which may tangle up with other nations. Most of all, I hope this stampede of the loss of hundreds of lives including my cousin and many other missed and unforgotten Iraqis, and the donations + sympathy will bring Iraqis together, to elect the right party to give ownership of Iraq for the Chaldeans, Assyrians to Arab and Kurdish Iraqis.

May they make the right decision that would befit all, for the least, Most.
I will speak about this further. Am close the exam period very soon here.

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At 12:32 AM, Blogger Mirco said...

You wrote "And we should be LIVING together, but it will not happen and it should not happen if it contradicts the Quranic/religious verse 'do not kill a human for you will as if killed all humanity'.

You, like many others, mainly not-muslims forget what it is inside the Quran verse you cited: - "apart for killings and mischief".

Where the killings part (homicide) could be understandable, the mischief part let muslims to kill near anyone they dislike or not agree and be true with their religion.

 
At 8:46 PM, Blogger Vladimir said...

Great post. I hope the muslims wake up some day.

 
At 9:04 PM, Blogger Baghdad said...

Thanks vladimir poetin.

Micro, If you know what religion is also about, every holy book should be taken in as a whole. I may have taken out one verse that I have heard many times to prove a point of Islam also not allowing the death of innocents. In other parts of the Quran, it does state other killings under special circumstances. I don't deny the other verses about killing existing.

 
At 3:51 AM, Blogger postliberal said...

It would be living in denial not to admit that our respective religions have a latent past of violence –in our religious texts, traditions, and history. But it would be an abandonment of the call of God to allow violence to be a motivation, or element of religious expression. We cannot let our visions, and divine voices, be hijacked by those who want to twist religion into a warped distortion of the fundamental principle. What all the major religions have in common, despite the acts and intentions of some practitioners, is that compassion is a fundamental essence.

Thanks for the original entry, by the way, Sara – informative as ever.

 
At 6:10 AM, Blogger D. E. Goddard said...

Well Miss,

It is good to read your thoughtful analysis of Islam in the current state of war/terrorism. I am not Muslim but cannot help but give Islam some thought because the Islamic peoples wield so much power in todays world, and have killed so many and may one day kill me.

Not only is Islam being tested in this day, all the world is being tested. The shrinking of the worlds borders, the rapid communications and news have ended some innocent ignorance. Even the poorest of any nation knows a little of other nations, especially through cultural tools like movies and recorded music. These movies and such have opened everyones eyes to the reality of some degree of life in other cultures and I think too many people end up comparing themselves to these other cultures. In particular the comparison between the Middle East and America. The Muslims of the Middle East have been taught that their way to live is the best, is superior to any and all other ways, especially the nominal Christianity of America. And yet the influence of America is so great and its accomplishments are so great. If one examines alone the transportation that America has pioneered and blessed the whole world with. The jet airliner that Americans with a eye to the betterment of mankind and an eye to profit too worked so hard to establish this wonderful thing and all have benefited. America has produced numerous wonders such as the jet airliner and eventually I think Middle Eastern Muslims have to ask once in a while, Why didn't an Egytian or a Syrian build Boeing? Especially in the current day when the Middle East has been on the receiving end of the greatest transer of wealth in the history of mankind. What has the Middle East done with this wealth? Has it built industries? None that I'm aware of. The Middle East with its abundance of cheap energy could be the greatest power on earth today. The people of the Middle East have the brains and the money to send people to the moon, but they don't. The people of the Middle East simply aren't the same as the people of America.
Is it the climate? Is the difference in religious views?

I think much of Islam faces a crisis in its own self examination. Islam must ask itself many questions and try and build itself up. And not build itself up by destroying another culture and building on top of the ruins of that culture.

 
At 6:10 AM, Blogger D. E. Goddard said...

Well Miss,

It is good to read your thoughtful analysis of Islam in the current state of war/terrorism. I am not Muslim but cannot help but give Islam some thought because the Islamic peoples wield so much power in todays world, and have killed so many and may one day kill me.

Not only is Islam being tested in this day, all the world is being tested. The shrinking of the worlds borders, the rapid communications and news have ended some innocent ignorance. Even the poorest of any nation knows a little of other nations, especially through cultural tools like movies and recorded music. These movies and such have opened everyones eyes to the reality of some degree of life in other cultures and I think too many people end up comparing themselves to these other cultures. In particular the comparison between the Middle East and America. The Muslims of the Middle East have been taught that their way to live is the best, is superior to any and all other ways, especially the nominal Christianity of America. And yet the influence of America is so great and its accomplishments are so great. If one examines alone the transportation that America has pioneered and blessed the whole world with. The jet airliner that Americans with a eye to the betterment of mankind and an eye to profit too worked so hard to establish this wonderful thing and all have benefited. America has produced numerous wonders such as the jet airliner and eventually I think Middle Eastern Muslims have to ask once in a while, Why didn't an Egytian or a Syrian build Boeing? Especially in the current day when the Middle East has been on the receiving end of the greatest transer of wealth in the history of mankind. What has the Middle East done with this wealth? Has it built industries? None that I'm aware of. The Middle East with its abundance of cheap energy could be the greatest power on earth today. The people of the Middle East have the brains and the money to send people to the moon, but they don't. The people of the Middle East simply aren't the same as the people of America.
Is it the climate? Is the difference in religious views?

I think much of Islam faces a crisis in its own self examination. Islam must ask itself many questions and try and build itself up. And not build itself up by destroying another culture and building on top of the ruins of that culture.

 
At 9:03 AM, Anonymous makhbool said...

i totally agree with u...ur not taking anyone's side here...ur just being honest, and they have to get the fact straight that it is their own people

 
At 10:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

its mostly the americans that are the killers here i am a muslim and in my whole life i have never been told to kill or harm anyone apparently its very important not to i got taught that as a muslim i have to be peaceful and loving and instead of starting trouble just ask god for help if a muslim does do something wrong its there fault not islam's islam does not teach us that im not even 15 yet and i know that then again if you were 2 and born pure muslim youll also understand that islam is a peaceful religion

 
At 3:43 AM, Anonymous james bessell said...

to anonymous;isn't it true[all muslims are not bombers,but all bombers are muslims]try to deny that !your quran is just a piece of crap.when your country runs out of oil ,it will go down on it's knees to the devil u.s.a. and of course we will help because we are devils!the bottom line is ,that your culture is ignorant and very sick,youv'e been around forever and you still live in the sand

 
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